Senator Rand Paul is asked about the comments made by John McCain on Tuesday from the Senate podium, in which he accused Senator Paul of working for Vladimir Putin. McCain, who just days ago demanded that President Trump show his proof that Obama had surveilled him and has been accusing Russia of meddling in our elections without a shred of evidence being offered, had no basis for his own attacks on his fellow Senator other than because Paul didn’t support McCain’s bill. That bill expands NATO to include Macedonia, which Senator Paul believes is a mistake.
After playing the clip, the MSNBC host asks Senator Paul for his view of the McCain remarks. Paul says, “You know I think he makes a really, really strong case, you know, for term limits. I think maybe he’s past his prime, I think maybe he’s gotten a little bit unhinged. I do think that when we talk about NATO there can be rational discussion about the pros and cons of expanding it.”
He notes that we currently have combat troops in 6 nations and have troops actively just stationed in a couple dozen others, while having a $20 trillion debt. He says McCain wants us to have combat troops “virtually everywhere.” He maintains, “His foreign policy is something that would greatly endanger the United States, greatly over extend us, and there has to be the thought, whether or not it’s in our national interest to pledge to get involved in war if Montenegro has an altercation with anyone.”
“There’s also another argument,” says Paul, “when you ask the people of Montenegro, only about forty percent or slightly less are actually in favor of this. They are close to Russia, they’re close to being sort of, like Ukraine, in the transition from Europe to Asia. Perhaps it would be good to be like Switzerland and be more neutral and trade with both. So there’s a lot of considerations.”
Paul continues, “But to call someone somehow an enemy of the state or a traitor might be considered by most reasonable people to be a little over the top.” He believes that there is an incorrect bi-partisan consensus that we “should have the whole world in NATO.” He says, “For example, if we had Ukraine and Georgia in NATO, and this is something McCain and the other neocons have advocated for, we would be at war now, because Russia has invaded both of them.”
Senator Paul states his belief that “Having former satellites or former parts of the Soviet Union in NATO is very provocative and you have to decide in advance whether you’re ready to go to war. If you guys are ready to send a million troops into Ukraine and fight World War lll, you’re going to do it without my support because I think that’s a really foolish notion.”
He goes on to expand on his views about how big NATO should be and US involvement in paying for and financing other people’s wars as NATO membership obligates us to do.
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